*Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I have a contender pistol in 357 maximum and love it, but if the 350 legend had been available when I bought it I might have gone that route. Short barreled rifles can have any barrel length less than 16 inches to be considered an SBR. Ironically, its once again becoming popular. The longer barrel allows for more velocity and range from the shell as well as a better sight radius for the shooter. The best barrel length for a 12 gauge shotgun is 26 inches for a versatile and balanced shotgun. The .350 Legend is no better. Barrel lengths under 28 will cause loss of unburnt powder. The chamber in the 350 Legend allows for a longer, more drawn-out bullet profile. The Best Barrel Length for 350 Legend AR Pistol The best barrel length for 6.5 Grendel is 16 for an all around decent rifle. Here is a chart comparing 180 grain, deer loads in both calibers using data from a 16-inch barrel.180-grain bulletStarting EnergyStarting velocityExpansion ThresholdEnergy Threshold350 Legend1,763 ft/lbs.2,100 fps1,400 fps-250 yards1,000 @ 160 yards750 @ 240 yards.357 Mag960ft/lbs.1,550 fps1,100 fps-175 yards1,000 @ never750 @ 75 yards. Same parameters as above, gets around 2200 fps from the max case and around 2300 fps from a 350L case. Developed for the Springfield 1873, the .45-70 was potent for its time. The best barrel length for 10mm is 14 for maximum velocity per barrel length in inches. Originally conceived by the late Elgin Gates and called the .357 SuperMag, the new round was very straightforward. A rifle is subject to the NFA only if the rifle has a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length. The best barrel length for dove, pheasant, quail, and bird hunting is 28 because hunting bird is rarely a close encounter scenario. Its essentially the same as .357 Magnumon steroidswhich means itll stretch out the range to about 100 or 150 yards (roughly the same as the .450 Bushmaster). With the .357, the most popular hunting bullet is a 157-grain bullet. Knowing the weird laws above can help clarify a bit why some of the barrel lengths below have become so popular. Anything above a 26 barrel for 6.5 Grendel doesnt make much sense statistically. see more at [ 1] Many 17 HMR barrels will be 20 to 22 inches, but an 18 barrel has been known to shoot just as well. The fact is, the 357 Magnum is considered a pistol round. The most popular barrel lengths range from 16 to 22 for 6.5 Grendel. The best barrel length to suppress is 10.5 for 5.56 and 8 for 300 Blackout if the goal is shortest barrel length that still performs well suppressed. Its also spawned a new cartridge (humans will always find a way to use the law to their advantage). The 350 Legend will shoot deer much farther and has better bullets available. This cartridge has become extremely popular for older hunters and youth hunters for that reason. The 350 Legend is a fascinating cartridge. Lengths smaller than the Federal requirement must either meet the legal pistol definition or be registered as an NFA short barreled rifle (SBR). Now, the .450 Bushmaster is seeing a grand resurgence, and its all because of the straight-wall cartridge allowances. Many people like to keep an AR pistol or SBR in their vehicle, so size does matter. Many owners of a 357 snub nose will swear by the 3 inch barrel. The 44 Magnum has 100-yards less effective range than a 350 Legend. Stopping Power The minimum impact velocity for the .357 Magnum is somewhere between 1,200 and 1,000 fps, depending on the particular bullet. Its nothing more than a .223 Remington cartridge case with the shoulders blown out to form a straight-wall case that will accept a .358-caliber bullet. HOW FAR SHOULD YOU PRACTICE SHOOTING BEFORE YOU DEER HUNT. Examples of minimum length requirements in federal law [ATF-NFA] include: 16 inch barrel length for rifles, 18 inch barrel length for shotguns, and 26 inch overall length for both rifles and shotguns. There was a time when rifle cartridges did not look as sexy as they do today. For me the problem is that 350 legend headspaces on case mouth (as there is no rim like .357 or .41 mag) Normally, a cartridge that headspaces on case mouth does not see more than say 37,000 psi of pressure. At first, these rifles were relegated to pistol caliber rifles like .44 or .357 Magnum. I recommend RTS Tactical for reliable, rifle-stopping options, Youre worth it. The speeds are also there. The .357 Magnum generally has a reputation as a fast and powerful round, at least for handguns, but Judging from the ballistic coefficient alone, the 30-30 has a slight advantage. Barrel lengths between 10-14 are best for portability in close quarters, and 20 barrels are best if your goal is long range shooting. Winchester is offering five factory loads for the .350 Legend. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'guntradition_com-leader-1','ezslot_8',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-1-0');The red text and asterisk are to show the max point and shoot factor. The American Rifle also comes with a generous recoil pad to help with that. Not to good for hunting. Might be easier to pick up a used 357 Max barrel or convert a 357 Mag barrel. For .450 Bushmaster and .444 Marlin, youre looking at $41 to $49 per box, and .45-70 Govt. A pistol can have any barrel length under 16 inches, and will often be between 3 and 16 inches. Although, you will find the recoil to be similar. Heres what I mean. Hornadys 170-grain American Whitetail soft-point load, for example, managed 1,551 feet per second out of the Model 350 as compared to 2,200 feet per second from a rifle barrel. The 4 barrels are great for carrying, but the longer barrel offer better sight radius and velocity. Both are 36 caliber bullets (listed as 0.357, with variance), but one has much higher powder volume, chamber pressure, and initial energy. I worked as a 45B Small Arms Repairer in the Army and since then I've been enjoying the hobby. If the firearm wont be suppressed and the goal is more distance shooting, then a 14.5 inch barrel is better suited for a 5.56 SBR. is more comparable to the .350 Legend, but youre losing power and velocity. If shooting anywhere past 400 or 500 yards having a 20 inch barrel is beneficial. Barrel lengths longer than 5 inches are generally less likely to be open carried or concealed. The .444 Marlin is not as popular as it once was. The best barre length for a 44 Magnum revolver is 6 for a good balance between weight and muzzle velocity. Theres nothing wrong with shooting within 100 yards. All Rights Reserved. Andget thisit can be fired in any .375 Winchester rifle or any .38-55 designed to be used with smokeless powder. The 180-grain bullet will have more energy and penetration. An AR or AK style pistol is normally categorized as having a barrel length less than 16 inches and an overall length less than 26 inches and has been equipped with a stabilizing brace of some sort. Even the most ballistically inept hunterssuch as those who will not accept or understand the advantages of the 6.5 Creedmoorare savvy enough to understand that just about any rifle cartridge has more reach and precision than a shotgun slug. The 350 Legend has a slightly higher Ballistic Coefficient which means it takes longer to slow down than the 44 Mag. Also forgetting the .450 marlin. He has earned black belts in four martial arts and is a certified Krav Maga instructor. At max range, being 25 yards off in your distance estimation means either a miss or a bad shot. If youll be hunting at distances less than 300 yards, a 14.5 or 16 inch barrel will work best. The best barrel length for a 40 S&W is 4 in a handgun. If you want a bolt action or AR15, or if your going to buy factory ammo, then 350 legend then 350 legend is it. The compact size makes this a great brush gun for swamps and other areas where vegetation and branches are dense. WebThe 350 Legend is essentially a long pistol round using pistol powder so 16 tends to be optimal. Hunters felt the push when they pulled the trigger, and the deer felt the whack when the bullet hit home. Sorry, no opinion on extraction other than I never had a problem with .223. However, for 2019, Marlin reintroduced the .444 in the Model 1895 rifle; and, as straight-wall cartridges go, this is a good one. Straight wall and big bore. Federal sells their .350 Legend cartridges between $26 and $32 for a box of 20. According to that, the .357 Mag should never be used. A .45-70 is 2.105". This is a 150gr copper bullet with a ballistic coefficient G1 of .320 at 2450fps from my 20" barreled rifle with very little recoil, an honest 300+ yard deer round. I hardly even notice its there. Now, many states are allowing straight-wall cartridges for deer hunting. Heres a link to the setup I own. Handgun and revolver type pistols most commonly have barrel lengths between 3 and 7 inches, while AR and AK style pistols will most commonly have barrel lengths between 7 and 16 inches. The .357 Magnum generally has a reputation as a fast and powerful round, at least for handguns, but It's a true joy for hunters young and old to use.. But you have to know exactly what distance the deer is at. And actually, I've always maintained that if I had to choose a .357 Magnum or a .44 in a rifle, I'd choose .357 every-time. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_9',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0');With the 350 Legend, the minimum threshold of expansion comes at around 1,400 fps. After all, with modern loads, you can do just about anything with this old warhorse. Both rounds can reliably take deer out to 250 yards. Sure .44 hits hard, but that's a lot to do with the mass of the bullet over how fast it's going. The 350 Legend SAAMI bullet diameter is specified at .357-.003. The 350 has a lighter kick than a 243 or 30-30! Now, lets take a look at these numbers. The best barrel length for a 6.5 Creedmoor hunting rifle is 20 inches. The 350 has a lighter kick than a 243 or 30-30! Any additional barrel length over 15 actually hurts velocity. It really depends which round you plan on using in the AR pistol. WebThe 350 Legend is arguably over twice as effective on deer-sized game than a rifle chambered in .357 Magnum. For the most part, I dont recommend taking a shot beyond 200 yards with any 350 Legend ammo. Deer hunters in the Midwest have long been stymied by antiquated deer hunting laws that heavily restricted the types of firearms they were allowed to use on whitetail deer. The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum. The 450 buffalo bore hard cast hits anything living and they wont be. comparing similar 180-grain bullets, it has more initial energy and more expected velocity in 16-inch barrels. At a distance less than 400 yards a 16 to 18 inch barrel would be ideal. That being said, if you will be hand-loading and are choosing your barrel length for absolute accuracy at distance for PRS, then the 24 barrel is the way to go. Regardless of the cartridge/rifle combination you pick, you should experience better accuracy and reach than you have with your smooth-bore. A box of .357 Mag. It makes a good middle ground hunting rifle in my opinion. The 30/30 usually shoots either 150 or 170-grain bullets. Thats where it begins to hit a ballistic wall. For .450 Bushmaster and .444 Marlin, youre looking at $41 to $49 per box, and .45-70 Govt. Everything I said up there about the .357 holds just as true for the .44 Magnum. When you get above three inches of needed elevation or windage adjustment, you can no longer just hold center and shoot. see more at [ 1] Most precision 50 BMG rifles have anywhere between a 30-36 barrel length. It can handle bullets that are more aerodynamic. 350 Ledgend vs 357 Rem Max | Bloodydecks Latest posts Sportboat anglers gearing up for new regulations? That puts the .357 back on the board. Any barrels longer than 14 inches will not produce much more velocity and may even reduce velocity of a 10mm. The 3 barrel loses too much velocity and energy but is easier to conceal. Both cartridges can look similar to the eye, but they are most certainly not. Besides, that is one of the most popular barrel lengths anyway. Latest: Pitchinwedge 3 minutes ago Fishing Chit Chat Thai curry fish cakes Latest: Cactus Chris 7 minutes ago Fishing and Hunting Cooking Recipes garmin gt52hw Latest: thesaltyhooker 7 minutes ago Classifieds Node Pay First The best barrel length for 350 Legend is 16 inches. For distances above 500 yards, a 22 or longer rifle barrel is best. I will use the cheap fmj for small game and coyotes, and a good 180-grain load for deer hunting. Similar bullet tolerances also exist for 357 Magnum and 357 Maximum. 5845(a)(3)-(4), (c)] (source). The 350 Legend is arguably over twice as effective on deer-sized game than a rifle chambered in .357 Magnum. It also has a bullet diameter that's lethal on medium-sized big game and a flat trajectory that us Midwestern hunters have never been able to enjoy before. Barrel lengths between 10-14 are best for portability in close quarters, and 20 barrels are best if your goal is long range shooting. However, for precision rifle shooting (PRS) 24 to 26 inch barrels will generate higher muzzle velocities. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Thats what she said. If you sit the 350 Legend side by side with a 5.56 round, you'll notice they are roughly the same length. is even more expensive. If you are wanting to use an expanding bullet for the .357, make note of that. The velocity gains approach full rifle levels, and this .350 Legend seems to take that a little further still. The 158-grain bullets have less drop at 100 yards because they are going about 200 fps more at the muzzle, but it has less penetration at 100 yards because the bullet has a lower sectional density and ballistic coefficient. I tend to be a bit old school and would probably go with the .45-70 Govt. This is partly because it was designed from the ground up for that purpose but also because its compatible with Americas Rifle, the AR-15.