Jibbing: You can jib with the Standard but if thats your thing go with the Jackpot. No obligation, but these links & ads support the site. Basically this board is very versatile. Other than adding a 167 to the sizing, the 2020 YES Standard has not changed since 2018. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 12 of 12 Posts . Picks up speed quickly, very stable approaching and very easy/forgiving when landing. Its a big bump down in comparison to the augmented camber of the YES Ghost which has the same shape and specs except for the camber profile. Days: 4 162: 12-13 Id actually like to see them call this the Jones All Mountain. The 2018 Yes Standard had a major overhaul. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The biggest change is the camber profile went from mostly camber (modern camber) to hybrid camber (camrock). Its like there is a long extension of the edge at the middle of the board and the rest is almost un-noticable. 15 front -15 back. Jones Mountain Twin vs. Flex: This is the softest board Jones makes in my opinion. No real changes were made to the 2019 but I got it mainly to compare against the Yes Ghost. Size: 156 Uneven Terrain: If your boots fit the mid/wide sizing then you will be able to weave in and out of bumps really well. ** The 2015 Jones Mountain Twin is not centered. The added camber makes it carve up the pipe wall better than the older model. Sizing: The Mid-Bite sidecut has an indention near the wast so the YES Standard is actually wider over the bindings than the waist width would lead you to believe. Set Up:22.5 Centered 12 front -12 back, Similar Boards (but not the same) That We Compared This To:Korua Otto, Lib Tech Terrain Wrecker, Loaded Algernon, Capita Mercury, YES Ghost, YES Not So Basic Globe. That combined with the tail that hasless volumethan the nose after the effective edge you get some pretty good directional float. Kind of almost there with the Yes Pick Your Line. I'd ridden Death Grip and it works while not being intrusive. Especially good directional float in powder. Switch: So even though the tail has less volumeit doesnt until after the effective edge so its a twin between the feet. Riders:James Really engaging the sidecut makes the Jones Mountain Twin grip and carve well in most condition you want to ride. Im always really confident even in icy conditions. The Jones Frontier is a highly capable board that feels incredibly stable mid-turn and offers an average degree of edge hold. It makes it very easy to skid a turn and its very forgiving but still has a pretty stable feel underfoot for one footing off a chair or flat basing. Its also not super unforgiving on small to mid jumps either. Powder: The set back on board 4.5 is the same as it was before but just with a more narrow stance. Switch: So this is called a Directional Volume Twin and that means its a twin on sidecut with a centered stance but the tail has less surface area than the nose. Capita Mercury vs. Bindings: Union Atlas $439.96 $549.95 Sale. Lib Tech Travis Rice Orca Snowboard 2023 - Powder Board and Resort Ready /Best Bang for Your Buck. And as advertised, this is an all purpose, all-mountain boardmeaning if you travel for trips and only have one board to bring, this qualifies nicely. You can really lay it out. The 2013 is also a slight improvement over the 2011 and 2012 models because of the added camber. If you like mellow turns it can do most radius turns. Close to Reference and Set all the way back. Wed say this is closer to the average side of good. However, I got bored with it after two subsequent trips out west. This design hasnt changed since 2013 and its the same great on snow feel. Bindings: Union Atlas, Union Strata. 159W: 10.5-11.5 Turn Offs/Swipe Left: Needs a little more responsive binding. Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV, Northwave Decades Riders:James, Matt,, Peter, Jimbo and many others That makes it more aggressive all mountain if you can get a little more set back and directional. Turning Experience: Once its over on edge turning this board is pretty fun and the sidecut seems to like all kinds of turning radius. Edge Hold: Really strong grip without being grabby. Its easy on approach and forgiving on the landing. Its still pretty much the same ride but just pops a little better on an ollie and springs out of a turn a little better. The real strong point for us is this base seems to push the Jones Mountain Twin past most on those long flats you can often see at resorts. It makes for a board that is pretty easy to butter because the rocker in the tip/tail already get you started. Jibbing: Its a little on the stiff side for jibbing but you can make it happen. Also the tip and tail seem to chatter a little less than previous models. As the board softens up as its ridden more jibs do get easier. Get this if you want something more buttery, forgiving and more playful. GET ONE NOW!! Final verdict. For example, in 2017 there was a 156 and a 156w. Boots: Burton Almighty, Adidas Tactical ADV, Burton SLX, Burton Rover, Burton AMB, Bindings: K2 Indy. You could easily call it aggressive all mountain or aggressive all mountain freestyle. The 2021 Jones Mountain Twin has a longer effective edge and spoon tech in the nose tail making it for an easier turning poppier ride than past models. Home > 2022 > June > 10 > Uncategorized > yes standard vs jones mountain twin. One thing we would like to see is a little more pop through a little more camber or some other tech that can help this snap harder. I ended up buying a used Jones MT too just cause it was definitely the board I would have bought if I had rode it first. Then I went to the burton process and loved it, it was easy to ride and the camber profile was great. Helmet: Smith Maze, Smith Vantage In the smaller sizes, it works well with under size 10 boots but again the stance width options are limited and on the narrow side. Front Inserts: 27(Top), 26.7( Freestyle Ref), 26.3 (Freeride Ref) & 26.1(Bottom) Back Inserts: 26.2(Top), 26.6( Freestyle Ref), 26.8 (Freeride Ref) & 27.2(Bottom), About The Good Ride Snowboard Binding Reviews, About The Good Ride Snowboard Boot Reviews, About The Good Ride Snowboard Outerwear Reviews, Best Percussion Massagers For Snowboarders, James (Size 9, 510 185-195lbs), Jimbo (Size 11, 511 160lbs), Zobel (Size 11.5, 6 180lbs, Peter (Size 8, 511 185lbs), Footprint Insole Technology Gamechangers Lite. Its just another improvement on the existing ride. The mountain twin is $120 more than the other two, is it worth the extra price? Flex: Feels pretty medium/stiff bordering on stiff. Flex:This year the flex is a little bit more stiff in the tip and tail but it seems about the same in the middle. Its a twin on sidecut. Carving: Its not a dedicated carver but its got some good qualities. I might have to look at the Basic, but the Typo might be better. I think we have about 8-10 friends of The Good Ride try this board. Shop for Jones All-Mountain Snowboards at REI - FREE SHIPPING With $50 minimum purchase. The one thing with the Standard is you need full-sized disc bindings (not mini-disc) to get all of the directional float it can offer with its slam back inserts in powder. Its still set back like its been for years now**. Riders:James (Size 9, 510 185-195lbs) It feels damp and shock absorbent as you pick up speed. Boots: Burton SLX, Burton Fiend LTD, Salomon F3.0,Burton Fiend,Burton Ion,Salomon Synapse 156: 10.-11 For example if you get the 156 and have a 23 wide stance then the set back inserts will work for you. There isnt a ton of camber underfoot but there is enough to give you some spring out of the turn. When on reference the YES Standard rides like a true twin on sidecut. I have 1 seasons experience boarding and many years experience skiing. Best Women's Snowboard for Carving: Rossignol . For example, the 156 was still slow for me at size 9 boots but it could have been a lot slower. TheJones Mountain Twin 2012-2011is a pretty fun ride that many of us here at The Good Ride really enjoy. There is little to no chatter when you pick up speed either. It doesnt have the spring to the Ghost on an ollie but it sure does butter easier. Im probably in the minority by saying that Id like to see the camber extended a bit to lock in and spring out of the turn better. Before the camber ended before the first binding inserts on the inside. Well its kind of centered. Compared to other Men's All-Mountain Boards. Turn Initiation: The Mid-Bite Tech grips but also provides a little faster turn initiation for how much surface area is on snow. Id go for the typo. 100% Satisfaction Guarantee. 163: 10-11 Also, we mention how much stiffer it is than the past year but our demo model turned out to be stiffer than the production models we have encountered. Jumps: It pops really well on snow for an ollie and it also can launch off kickers of any size. We try to get as many images of the Jones Mountain Twin, but forgive us if they're not all there. Set-Up: 21, 21.5 Wide. Unlike normal Magnetraction this is hardly noticeable unless you look close. The base when waxed still has a great glide that holds its speed for a long ride. You know meBiestythe guy who writes all this shit. If your boots match the width its a great board to turn. Speed: Its no bomber but its got enough to handle big, steep wide open groomers and then slow down and butter around when it gets flat. If it has the sizing range and reference stance of theYES TypoandYes Libreline then this would have been amazing for riders of all sizes but for this year its a bit more specialized. If you can't buy through the links above, you can support the site with: 2023 The Good Ride | Privacy Policy | server.Production1.com, Jones Mountain Twin 2011-2023 Snowboard Review, Here are some ideal US boot sizes for these Jones Mountain Twin sizes. Most YES Camrock boards have more camber. If you have mini-discs all that I say below wont matter. Turn Initiation: Super quick edge to edge and it will have no problem snapping around in any tight spot. Also if you have to deal with chunder or hammer over the mess instead of weave around it the Standard can do that too. Rails and Jibbing You can hit rails and go through the jib park but there are many better boards out there than the Jones Mountain Twin. On Snow Feel: Very aggressive and all about bombing the hill regular or switch. It is ahead of disrupted sidecuts like from Arbor and Jones or mellow mag from Lib-Tech/Gnu. Size: 157 We dont feel its a 7 out of 10 but more like a 5 out of 10. Speed: This board is very damp and stable at speed. Pipe: Man this is a fun pipe board for less accomplished riders like me but also strong pipe riders as well. With a good set of bindings it will not pass up too much shock back to your feet if you have to go through Bumps or end of the day groomers with snow all sprayed around . Thats why it isnt called the Jones Park Twin. The Jones Mountain Twin cant hang with the more directional Jones boards in the line but really does well for a Directional Twin with a centered stance. I kept thinking I would feel the tail act differently than the nose but it doesnt on groomers and I ended up riding switch a lot. Office No.042-37245953 Ali Akbar 0300-4103013 info@maccatraders.com The YES Standard worked really well for me in a size 153 and to my surprise it has more surface area than the longer narrower model in 2017 or the 2021 Globe Traditionalist that fit me perfectly. You can actually set it back 1.75 back from center of board with a 22.8 stance width and get close to 1 with the 22.8 Freeride Reference Stance Width. You always know exactly what you are going to feel under foot. Its -20mm set back on the effective edgebut more like -38 mm (1.5) set back on the board. Pipe: The Yes Standard is a great Pipe board and I cant wait to get more time in this pipe when we get this board for the season. For the rider who rides in hard to soft and onlyoccasionalice you will be more than happy with the edge hold. It feels softer than its rating on Yes site. After being a dedicated Custom camber fan forever I decided to delve into the new world of cam/rock. Its got a very diverse personality that can fit a wide range of riders and it does everything very well. It doesnt pop very well but it has a very rubbery feel that can handle all types of terrain without getting cranky underfoot as long as it is at slower speeds. It needs a pretty responsive binding and boot to start to respond and many of us have felt it a little slow in the trees. We do make money from the Where To Buy links, but this is our best attempt at an honest and objective review from an average riders perspective. This makes for a very consistent feel underfoot in all conditions when one footing off the chair or flat basing. Nothing out of the ordinary but it can ollie rather well. It just depends on the overall feel you want. So, all in all, The YES Standard offers up a great all-mountain ride that gives you a little taste of what a Freeride board is like in powder when setting back and a strong all-mountain freestyle ride on non-powder days. Get the Ghost if you want something more powerful on a carve and more pop and you dont mind it being less forgiving. Especially in the tip/tail. I love that it has more camber than the older Nidecker made model but over the years of riding this board Im kind of wanting a little more these days. Jumps: There is good pop and we found it pretty easy to generate our own air. It holds through a carve rather well though. (We dont put in the exact weight because with wood cores there is no consistency in a boards weight). Then throw in a nose with more surface area than the tail combined with a good big of early rise you get more float than you would think for a directional twin. We lost the YES Big City but gained an updated version in the 2013 Jones Mountain Twin. 519. Almost excellent grip and just a shade behind YES underbite technology. Its now intermediate friendly where before it was mostly for advanced riders. Size: 156 So all in all my crew and I had a great time with this ride and I think every one of us would like to have this board in our quiver. It doesnt quite feel like a true twin but it is super close to the point you might not notice. There is a lot more to this review here: https://thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/yes-standard-2015-2019-snowboard-review/https://thegoodride.com/snowboard-. Now there is just a 156 with a similar width to the 2017 156w. Especially those that ride in harder snow. It is a pretty stiff board both torsionally and tip to tail, giving it stability but also limiting feedback, feel, and fun. So just to get a little into the techthe Jones Mountain Twin has about a 50/50 camber rocker combo and a set back camber so there is more rocker in the nose than the tail. GST closed down. Conditions: Lately, we have been liking the easier uneven snow performance on the Mtn Twin a little more than the Ultra Mountain Twin but it can go either way. Set Up: 22.75 Centered 15 front -15 back. Bindings: Burton Diode This is no freeride board built for speed but its very good for its shape and riding style. Besides the slight lack of speed, the board was a little too soft for me. Turn Initiation and Carving: Same kind of turn initiation as before but just a little more technical and expert oriented than before. I felt it floated so easy in 1 foot of powder and it wasnt even trying yet. I'm fairly experienced. The 2020 YES Ghost also has set back inserts (Slamback) for powder days so you arent compromising as much as you were in 2019. Very very stoked with this board. I've narrowed it down to the Jones Mountain Twin, the Captia DOA, and the YES Standard. That combined with the early rise rocker in the nose gives much better float than most mountain freestyle twins that have minimal set back on board that is often closer to 1 back from the center of the board. It makes the YES Standard one of the better all mountain boards out there for powder. Size: 153 In This Review and 156 in Past Reviews. Jumps: The Ghost is better for going bigger but the YES Standard is better for going small to medium while still being forgiving. If you get this board its meant to be ridden switch a lot so dont buy it if you are a directional rider. I havent ridden the Standard in powder but did with the Yes Optimistic 2015 and it had a really easy float. Show all. It just helps you initiate the turn a little faster and makes it easier in messy bumps or in the trees on a powder day. Conditions: Everything from hard snow to good snow and even a foot of powder along with some slackountry time with Drift Boards. Then it gets a bump width-wise at 156-159 and it makes it a great board for those 10-12 boots. Turn Initiation and Carving: The Jones Mountain Twin is very fun to make short radius turns. Switch: I really wasnt buying into the directional volume twin thing at first but after riding switch with a centered stance it felt almost the same. Didn't get to try it in pow because of COVID can't wait till I do next year. I think that is what I like about Yes and their sister companies with their hybrid camber tech. Conditions: Really good spring conditions almost every day and only a few hard mornings. Its now just barely a directional twin but a much better All Mountain Ride. Days: 5+ Near Excellent Edge Hold. Approximate Weight: Felt normal and well constructed. There was a nice smooth easy flex. James, Jimbo, Peter, Kyle, Stephen, Mary, Lee and a few other friends not on the site. I have this years 156 jones mountain twin wide and its amazing. Gameghangers LP cbp ufce authorized equipment list. So the 2018 review still stands and the changes weren't big enough to tax Jones to borrow the board again. We ride all East Coast PA, a lot of icy groomers. I relate my decision to choosing my surfboards from a shaper who knows their stuff.. and believe me Mr Jones knows!! Press J to jump to the feed. Its still not like the Jackpot but it sure does butter easier than it use to. Boots: Burton Almighty, Burton SLX, Nike Lunarendore yes standard vs jones mountain twin. Powder: The -20mm setback is now identical to the now discontinued YES Big City so it will be a little short of borderline excellent and do a great job in powder. Turning Experience/Carving: So if you want a more powerful turner the YES Ghost with that extra camber or boards like the Korua Otto or Loaded Algernon will give you a more rewarding turning experience. If you choose the freestyle stance of 22.8 as well you can get .25 back on board and ride it more like a true twin in powder if that is what you are into. 153: 9-10 The Jones MT is better than the Capita and Burton. Never the less here is our take on how the 15s lighter core played on snow compared to the 2014 and 2013 models. Its an easy ride one footing off a chair or flat basing on a long flat run. With a competitive price and up-to-date technology, this board is a strong top contender for every all-mountain/freestyle board out there. The sixth insert in each set is set back further than the rest so if your reference stance matches the corresponding sizes reference stance you can still get some set back going on like an all mountain board. 167: 13-14. Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV, Adidas Acerra, Burton SLX, Burton Almighty, Burton Rover, Flex/Pop/Buttering: Its got a pretty mediumish flex across the board but on snow, the tip/tail feel softer. Uneven Terrain: Its medium flex and somewhat forgiving nature so it can handle bumpy end of the day snow rather well. The lowest score was 70.7/100. Jibbing:This is probably the weakest part of the ride but its not that bad either. It eliminated the loose feel you can have with the older Jones All Mountain Twin. Set-Up: 21, 21.5, 22 Wide. Jibbing: The Yes Standard is a better jibber than you would think. tides equities los angeles does dawn dish soap kill ticks does dawn dish soap kill ticks If you size this correctly for your boots it is medium to medium quick. MT is a bit of a beast. The board has more camber and only a little bit of early rise rocker in the tip/tail. It would be fine if they had 62 centered inserts per binding but at 52 it minimizes the max stance width too much. Just some very minor tweaks. Its a different feel and has a little more dynamic/snappy ride than before. Best Women's Powder-Leaning All-Mountain Snowboard: Jones Women's Flagship Snowboard. It tracks really well into jumps too. Capita's Death Grip and Yes' Mid-bite are essentially polar opposites of one another. This is about as close as a board can get to being a quiver of one. If you are looking for a one board quiver this is why we recommend boards like this because they can double as a set back surfy freeride board when set all the way back and give you a taste of that directional freeride feel. Edge Hold: Nice solid grip that doesnt wash easily when it gets hard. On Snow Feel: Stable to even semi catchy. Final Thoughts on Jones Frontier vs. Mountain Twin Tbh the extra price might be worth it for the performance, and I mean you wont need another snowboard for a while after that. If your stance corresponds to the set back inserts then you can get a little more directional float. We have tried many more too depending on conditions, riding styles and moods. Usually they excel in one condition but falter in another but not this ride. If just has no personality - feels to me like driving a domestic mid-size rental from Hertz, rather than a BMW. You always compromise when choosing one board for everything but this is one of the best one board solutions we have come across. Itsan extended camber profile and set back the stance -20mm. 23 in wide 18 -9. If you are driving hard wall to wall and going bigger its all about the Ghost but this is great for most. Theyhad a centered stance and a very small camber between the feet that ended before the binding inserts. The camber profile is more like the early YES boards 10 years ago when it didnt go past the inserts. I am in between the 153 and 156 though. Id say my only complaint with the Mtn Twin is the turn initiation is not that fast in tighter tree situations. Buttering: Such a great board for buttering. The mellow rocker in the tip/tail gives it just enough to make it forgiving on semi-awkward landings. At a 21.5 wides stance width the YES Standard can give you a 4.5 difference between nose/tail, or a 2.25 set back from the center of the board. If you are that kind of rider the extra tech will make it easy. It just saysyeahokIm in. So there are lots of changes to the 2021 Jones Mountain Twin but the main take away is more pop and a board that turns a little faster. The Jones Mountain Twin didnt out shine any of the other mostly rocker hybrid camber boards we tried but seemed to tie with them in terms of performance. So other than the slightly slow turn initiation Id say that this is a board that can make the average rider (like us) happy just about any where on the mountain. The more we rode this the more we liked it. Jones Mountain Twin - Best for Carving, Some Freestyle, and Switch Riding. If you like to center it up and ride groomers/park switch this is a great call. Pipe: There is good edge hold for hard pipes and it inspires confidence while still being forgiving. The YES Standard has a directional volume twin shape that acts pretty much like a true twin when on reference stance. Bindings: Union Force Flex: Its a medium flex and it sits right in the middle of medium. The Greats is meant to be a True Twin board i discovered that mines cae with a set back of about 2.5cm which would make this board absolutely useless to a goofy rider. 165W: 12-13 This isnt going to power over chunder and tracked up snow like some Jones boards but it has this really fatigue free all day ride that we really like. The 2022 model did not change vs. the 2021 in this review or since this model was updated in 2018. More feedback from the core would make it a more fun ride. Approximate Weight:The 2015 Jones Mountain Twin 157 weighed in at 6.0 lbs which is .4 lbs lighter than the 2014. yes standard vs jones mountain twin. They kept the directional volume twin but added a bigger blunt tip/tail that not only looks good but also improves the float a little bit over the smaller nose/tail. Even with the added camber the board will be easy to negotiate between trees and excellent on a narrow chute that might require tight turning. It still isnt going to keep up with Alt Freeride and Freeride boards like the Y, Hybrid, Optimistic or Pick Your Line but it does really well for a directional twin. Its the kind of edge hold that I really like because it performs well in just about any condition the average rider wants to ride. May 23, 2021 . 22 Wide. Hard to say but there is still a mellow disruption in the sidecut similar to the older model. Ride MTNPIG Snowboard 2023 - Fastest and Widest Do-it-all Board. The blunted tip/tail is great for a little extra float than the 2017 model. So its great from a natural feature on the mountain to a medium-ish to a big kicker in the park. There is a lot more to this review here: https://thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/jones-mountain-twin-2011-2019-snowboard-review/https://thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/jones-explorer-2016-2019-snowboard-review/https://thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/yes-standard-2015-2019-snowboard-review/If this review helped wed appreciate if you:*Buy through the links on our site. However, the sidecut mellows out over the inserts so it tracks really well. However, if you are the right size like a 10-11 you will have a pretty good time. Cut through some thick trees without a problem. Turn Initiation: One of the biggest complaints with the Jones Mountain Twin is the edge to edge transitioning. If I can only take one board on a road trip this would be it. Also the nose length is longer than the tail length. When you get the YES Standard on edge it isnt very satisfying turning experience. Dealing with small inconsistent groomers is easy. How This Review Happened: Weborrowed this for an extended demo and then returned it. The lower volume nose allows the tail to sink a little better and combined with those slam back inserts the board transforms from a directional twin to a board that feels more like a directional freeride board when you get into the deep stuff. It will be recommendable for a much wider range of riders than the previous years models. Some people love it, some people hate it (I'm among this group), and some people can take it or leave it. It also made the Jones Mountain Twin and Ultra Mountain Twin feel like a fast turner and that's not a fast turning . Days: 6+ Its nowhere near as easy to jib or butter around as some of the other more freestyle focused hybrid camber boards like the YES Jackpot or even the old Jones Mtn Twin but it isnt bad for a board that focuses more on carving and mountain riding. Much more fun to ollie and about the same on the roller coaster line in the park. As the length increases the width of the YES Standard increases too. Also the stance width is pretty narrow this year at a 21.5 reference stance. I wouldnt call it an ice specialist though. Its a board you can lap the park with the Yes Standard all day. The performance upgrade and thrill you get from riding it will be more than worth thr cost difference. Set Up: Centered 15 front -15 back 23 wide. Carving: We liked the improved edge hold with Middle Bite and it helps the board carve better in harder conditions. Switch:If you want to center up the stance and ride switch its still a directional twin that will almost ride like a true twin. 21 front -6 back. A few things to consider here. Uneven Terrain: So the Yes Standard has a much more forgiving way about messy resort snow and it can really turn quick through bumps. Super easy to skid a turn and it works for just about any ability level rider. Size:158 and 156 It didn't have as much pop as I am used to when hitting ollies and kickers. Now that the Ghost has slam back inserts too its pretty close to the Standard but overall this has a little easier directional float. Approximate Weight: Feels on the light side of normal. It's a middle of the road park board flex. So it still feels like a hybrid camber ride in harder snow but the spoon tech kicks in while in softer snow making it turn a little easier than before. Maybe its the mellow magnetraction bump in the middle but it just doesnt snap edge to edge super quick. They narrowed the stance width considerably. Curbside Pickup Available NOW! They widened up the sizing across the board to accommodate size 10+ riders and got rid of the under 10 sizings for the bigger boards. Many boards personalities change acording to the conditions but the Jones Mountain Twin does not and thats hard to do in this hybrid world of snowboards. I think the extra volume in the nose will help though but Im not sure how much. Front Inserts: 27(Top), 26.7( Freestyle Ref), 26.3 (Freeride Ref) & 26.1(Bottom) Back Inserts: 26.2(Top), 26.6( Freestyle Ref), 26.8 (Freeride Ref) & 27.2(Bottom) Now it is more in the middle. Also if there are any contradictions between the video review and written, go with whats said in the written review. Out of the 38 men's all-mountain snowboards that I rated: The average score was 83.9/100.