Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. [8] Darla did this with the intent to keep both lawyers as their liaison to the Senior Partners, because though angry for being used by Wolfram & Hart, she desired power. Buffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? The pair fought on a rising container that held the creature, while Cordelia tried to stop the process. She doesn't have the time for it. When Buffy appeared at the secret laboratory to confront Adam and save Riley, the undead Walsh tried to attack her with a bone saw. He sent Spike to kill her, claiming she was still possessed by Jasmine; he later admited he did not expect the plan to succeed, but it "was worth a shot." Angel then hurled Winters out of the window of the tall building they were in, into the sunlight where he was burnt to dust. Since werewolves are fictional, there's no universal "rule" about how they must be portrayed. Crouse's brother is Timothy Crouse, author of The Boys on the Bus about political journalism during the 1972 presidential campaign. Personally I think> > ASH's departure this season was even more devastating.> >>> I wonder. To me that would have been a cooler idea since you don't need to have a huge hidden base under campus and it does not make the Slayer's job completely redundant since you don't have an armed squad of demon-hunter doing her job, just your everyday mad scientist. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Complete Series (1997-2003) was TV's most unlikely pop-culture phenomenon since The X-Files. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. The Initiative is her baby. ", Lindsay Crouse brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport, Lindsay Crouse Summer Retreat in Massachusetts web site, Lindsay Crouse's Buddhist Teachings posted online at ACI-LA, Lindsay Crouse's additional Buddhist teachings posted online, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lindsay_Crouse&oldid=1133361838, Episode: "Rebecca McManus and Steve Arnold", Episode: "I've Got Batman in My Basement", Episodes: "Captain Kangaroo Court", "A Liver Runs Through It", Episodes: "Ted and Carey's Bogus Adventure", "Alice Doesn't Fit Here Anymore", Episodes: "Forgive, But Don't Forget", "Black Eye", "Sinners and Saints", "All Others Pay Cash", This page was last edited on 13 January 2023, at 11:35. She has a vision of what she wants to do. Even our quantum physics validate[s] ideas the Buddha taught 2,500 years ago. He was eventually rescued by Angel, Spike, and Charles Gunn for information they need. Buffy Phenomenon A New Man (4.12) all too well - persaphones - The Sound of Music - Rodgers . Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. While> Oz would have remained Willows love interest, I don't think we would> have seen Buffy crying in Oz's lap in "Dead Things" for instance. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a, > > motherly type to Riley. If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the bedroom floor in "Seeing Red". Lots of people make their own bullets. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> > Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. I'm sure she admires Dr. Frankenstein - or Einstein. Lindsey also worked with the ex-Watcher Rutherford Sirk to fake an addendum to the Shanshu Prophecy that the vampire with a soul must drink from the Cup of Perpetual Torment after apparently causing a disruption of reality that Eve claims is the result of there being two vampire champions with souls in an attempt to provoke a conflict between Angel and Spike that would result in Angel's death. Her interview in The Watcher's Guide, vol. Finding out that Buffy is the Slayer is a kind of a gas, and it's nervous-making and exciting to have good people on her team; she's like a president - she wants a great cabinet underneath her. Lindsey then discovered that Darla had slept with Angel. It is a series with humble beginnings (the movie, starring Kristy Swanson, was a minor cult . In "The Freshman", antagonist Sunday was originally going to be a Slayer who had been turned into a vampire, explaining how she was able to nearly effortlessly defeat Buffy the first time they fought.Instead, she simply became an unusually savvy and powerful vampire. [18], During the Fall of Los Angeles, the Senior Partners discussed with Wesley the possibility of replacing him with a "zombified McDonald" or Eve as their liaison to Angel. At first he enjoyed his new privileges, able to play his guitar again. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> > first episode. -- Tim McDaniel is tm@jump.net; if that fail, tm@us.ibm.com is my work account. He was known for being a jock-like character, who was a part of a secret initiative to capture demons and study them. ESPECIALLY if he had returned from controlling hiswerewolf self and got back with Willow (excluding any messy Taraentanglements), then they were totally happyand THEN Oz got shot atthe end of Season 6. Professor Maggie Walsh is a fictional character in the television series Buffy the Vampire Slayer. "This is a matter of opinion--I disagree. Great actresses like Glenn Close and Susan Sarandonthere's nothing written for anyone over a certain age. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. lets face it. Yes> I was that sad :-) and in those there were certain facts that don't appear> in Buffy>. Hmm interesting hope someone has info on this? An understanding that Willow found inconvenient as she used magic to empower her and increase her standing with Buffy. As his character grew in popularity, he was included as part of the credited cast in the show's titles. Buffyverse Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. Lindsay Crouse had more fun playing a zombie than playing Prof. Walsh. Notable roles include a recurring portrayal of Kate McBride, a lesbian police officer on Hill Street Blues during its sixth season in 1986. LindsayCrouse was signed for the whole season. For her role in the 1984 film Places in the Heart, she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. Express. We thought it would create> > some Shakespearean jealousy, and. It could be that a longer presence for Walsh was considered in "rough draft" versions of the season-long arc but was then revised away, and writer discussions of this were erroneously morphed into a view that this was a last-minute change based on Crouse's departure. In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. Adam is a complete monster with absolutely no human emotions -- it made him a very formidable foe! Or that > > lets face it. [14], Lindsey later sought out Spike under the assumed identity of a drifter named Doyle, closely paralleling the initial encounters between Angel and the real Doyle. Riley later found out his boss had implanted a behaviour modifier into him after he joined the initiative, and it caused him to experience strange feelings. http://gsoft.smu.edu/ScriptCrypt/crypt.html|same, kgoodnig-4DDDD9@newssvr11-ext.news.prodigy.com, 4E34B160CCD511AC.5999A36C@lp.airnews.net. The Watcher's Guide is indeed one of the published interviews I was citing about Crouse's departure and Walsh's fate. In my opinion, she was more of an appendage then a self-standing character when she was first introduced. Whether or not Buffyverse werewolves have any sort of fast healing hasnever been established. ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. ", "The Summer Retreat with Ven. The break was eventually detected and Lindsey, along with Lilah, Lee, and several other employees where searched by mind readers. Better safe than splattered. >. Oh my god, how lame is that?-------------------------------------------------------------------------, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, From the 29 January 2002 online edition of Entertainment Weekly, Marti, On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:16:49 -0400, Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790\) <, I had thought there'd be more Walsh in S4Too bad, LC missed a real chance to. In recent years, Crouse has concentrated on the theater. On more than one occasion, he joined forces with the Angel Investigations team and helped them stop some of Wolfram & Hart's particularly amoral agendas and operations, such as their plan to assassinate three children[1] or their mystical transplant operation. [citationneeded]. --from a usenet discussion. the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. Afterward, he mails it to Angel at Wolfram & Hart. riiighhht?). If he was making silver> bullets, it might be on a "Pascal's Wager" basis: if the legend IS true,> then using lead bullets is a way for him to get very quickly and very> messily dead. And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a LoneRanger complex. I really do believe that." Why did Buffy go to LA in season 4? --Doctor Who ************************************************************************, I wonder. Apr 21, 2022. > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a> Usenet posting). And why would he make his own bullets, then? [citationneeded], Angel is given the amulet which Spike eventually uses to destroy the Hellmouth in Sunnydale. [12] Deposited, incorporeal, in Wolfram & Hart and unable to leave the city limits, Spike gradually grows attached to L.A. and reconsiders his initial intention to seek out Buffy in Europe, deciding to allow Buffy to remember him as a self-sacrificing hero. [INSIGHT]Buffy: How old was Sarah Michelle Gellar in Buffy The Vampire Slayer? The three hired then-renegade Slayer Faith to assassinate him, promising to free her from her police charges and a doubled amount of payment. I think she/they (the initiative) wanted to create a "super-being" who could fight crime, kill demons etc, and then the scientists could continue to use the demon parts to create more "super-beings". Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The loss of Marc Blucas was a blessing! A good guy. They were only able to leave by the sacrifice of Gunn, who remained behind to take Lindsey's place. Apparently Adam was originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay. I'm not sure I'd have been desperately interested in the Maggie/Rileyrelationship. Crouse's film career began in 1976, with small roles in television and theatrical movies. Emmy Award-winning Sarah Michelle Gellar was born on April 14, 1977 in New York City, the daughter of Rosellen (Greenfield), who taught at a nursery school, and Arthur Gellar, who worked in the garment industry. [citation needed] Her maternal grandparents were author and educator John Erskine and his wife Pauline Ives. After David Boreanaz left "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," he went on to star as the eponymous antihero of the spin-off show "Angel," according to Screen Rant. On a mission of redemption.I help the hopeless. Wesley, unhappy with being forced to serve the Partners, shot those possibilities down, saying the presence of either alongside Angel would not help the Senior Partners get what they wanted, as the vampire would at worst ignore them and kill them at best. Zombie Walsh attacks Buffy when she comes to Riley's rescue, but Buffy knocks her down and defeats her, and with some help from the Scooby-Gang of Willow, Xander, and Giles, she defeats Adam as well. > In article , Tim McGaughy> wrote:>>in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at>>dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:>>> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what>>> they were made of.>>>>And why would he make his own bullets, then?>>>>> And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a Lone Ranger complex.>>>>Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can>>only be killed by a silver bullet.> > That doesn't mean that the legends are true. I've never understood the logic of shifting the dilemma to anewly introduced third party. But just as he said this, Angel entered the conference they were having where Lindsay introduce him to Wolfram & Hart and telling him that Angel could not touch Winters. However, Angel knew that Lindsey could never be trusted, and he had secretly instructed Lorne to assassinate Lindsey once the Sahrvin demons were eliminated. Green supposedly wanted a better storyline to showcase his talents (hey, yeah, hey being pretty much interchangable with Tara's lines). In it, she recalls the moment her friends saw a photo of Lady Gaga cuddling with Polansky in Miami after attending the Super Bowl . [16], Lindsey was incarcerated in a Holding Dimension that emulated suburbia, complete with a wife and a son. Angel fought Darla for it at the event and Lindsey tried to protect her from Wolfram & Hart, which tried to kill her. The fleur-de-lis bracelet that Lindsey wears throughout his time on the show is actually a bracelet that Christian Kane wears to remind him of his mother who is from New Orleans. I think the way they went made it much scarier, though. reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. This would at least have given Riley some character otherthan soldier boy. That doesn't mean that the legends are true. His rifle didn't look like it had been bought in K-Mart. She was born in New York City on 1948-05-12. Dressed in his casual attire, Lindsey left Los Angeles and went on a soul-searching trip, including, amongst other places, Nepal. But because of Lindsay Crouse having filming conflictions with her movie schedules they had to kill her off and write Adam in? > in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at> dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:> > > In article <21ced21e.0206@posting.google.com>, Sam> > wrote:> >. Re-writes and character alterations happen all the time in T.V., but her direction shifts so radically so fast that it's always struck me as odd. He had also been betrayed by his boss, Professor Walsh (Lindsay Crouse) who had been in charge of the initiative but had been lying about an attempt to kill his girlfriend, Buffy. But to be honest, i think her story played out the way it should have been. It's easy to kill offrecurring character's, it's tougher to kill off contract regulars. Buffy the Vampire Slayer RETURN confirmed - stars reunite after decade, Buffy the Vampire Slayer reboot: Release date, cast, plot, trailer, Sarah Michelle Gellar reveals the treatment she used to shed fat. Although if you bring up Jenny Calendar I'm still bitter aboutthem killing her off! Returning to his apartment, Lindsey found that Darla had left town, taking all her clothes with her. Werewolves and silver bullets could be another false thing. In an interview from back in 2018, he said: "It was one of my very first jobs, it was certainly my first big job. Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. Since leaving Buffy, he went on to star in Knight & Day, Operation Christmas and Underground. Ooh, didn't know that. When she seemingly killed a security guard which put her on the run, Lindsay tried to contact Angel but he was already there and hung Lindsey's neck by a string choking, wanting to know where she was but Lindsey explained that she would die if Angel didn't save her. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. It was> > Maggie who was supposed to tell Riley about Angel to humiliate Buffy in> > front of everyone at the Initiative. [16], While Spike fought the zombie defenses protecting the creature meant to kill Angel, Angel and Lindsey dueled in the chamber where the "contingency plan" was stored. And when he came back I realized that I really missed Riley.". She> > said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of, > > their hats at the last minute. Kills me! Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. That she doesn't want to live in a world of babies. Not much help sorry. I really do believe that." Why did Buffy go to LA in season 4? "[18], Lindsey destroyed the Sahrvin Clan with Lorne's assistance as planned. (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still has>>> scratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, so>>> he can't heal too fast. She's like a President. See Lindsay Crouse full list of movies and tv shows from their career. I just can't see Oz taking Tara's place. > >> > I wonder. ", Clements, Warren. Consequently, his work at the firm suffered as he aired his hatred towards Angel against his colleagues while still in a race with Lilah for the promotion. However Buffy seemed to prefer living in danger, and she could not get used to the idea of settling down with Riley while attempting to save the world. Nevertheless, a new contract required her to kill the Holy Triumvirate, formed by three innocent children. The trailblazing basketball player died last month at age 66. "[4], Crouse outlined her view of Maggie's relationships with Riley and Buffy, "Her teaching assistant Riley is really the child she never had, and there's probably confusion there that he's a potential something for her that's slightly out of her reach, but she's willing to prevent anyone else from being interested in him. This is USENET! Walsh retreats to the labs of Project 314, where she plots how to use Adam to defeat Buffy. Not that I want to see Oz shot or anythingbutit would have had more impact. [15] Although the "mind numbing" visions that Lindsey reported were non-existent, the events described were real. Perhaps with the intention of using them as police or even soldiers. Crouse was born in New York City, the daughter of Anna (ne Erskine)[1] and Russel Crouse, a playwright. READ MORE:Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still hasscratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, sohe can't heal too fast. [citationneeded], Lindsey legally represented many vampires and demons, as well as evil humans. The vampires in Buffy don't exactly conform to traditional> standards. She's probably a mix of those two. 2. The two wrote much of The Sound of Music. She said that she was rather> surprised and disappointed uponhearing abou ther character's death.> > > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a> > Usenet posting)> > Hey, you could check the guide for yourself>. The. . You don't AngelLindsey's last words, Lindsey and Angel allied once more in an effort to stop the Circle. They were thinking in terms of family,so Adam as "brother" probably seemed a better option. I'm a vampire with a soul.BUFFY: A vampire with a soul? "Because everybody needs to go home and complain about the director. Sunnydale in further episodes before it was all revealed to us.-- Be seeing you,Growltiger, > > > > Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. We bring you all the headlines and gossip in one place! The thing is would people have cared that Buffy and Riley were being drivenapart? I've been expecting Tara to leave or>be off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLY>goneright? Big Bang Theory plot hole: Who is Eliza Dushku? Riley managed to remove the chip in his body and ripped out the tubes pumping blood to keep Walsh reanimated, killing her for good. But it's easier to see how and why they might have madethat decision. His relationship with Buffy also hit the rocks after he realised she could not love him in the way he wanted, as she was scared of emotional vulnerability. From what I've heard it was between Crouse's agent and ME; specifically money $$$. Explore Tumblr Posts and Blogs tagged as #lindsay crouse with no restrictions, modern design and the best experience | Tumpik. When Darla failed to persuade Angel to their side, thus stunting her mentality, Lindsey discovered he was in love with her despite her desire to become a vampire. Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? Or it could be that the Watcher's Guide is a fluff piece and that's really how it happened. "Quitting is not the same as giving up": Lindsay Crouse and Kirby Ferguson make the case for leaving a job, relationship or hobby. Maggie maintains a close relationship with Riley, who is her favorite soldier; she appears to think of him as a son. During the ensuing battle, Lindsey attempted to burn a scroll that Angel needed to save Cordelia. In 1982 she appeared as the decisive witness in The Verdict. You do realize that Wolf Lake has nothing to do with Buffy, don't you? This then forced Lindsey to use an artificial hand from then on. Riley was also the only character to have been accepted as part of the group by Buffy's male friend, Xander Harris (Nicholas Brendon). When he did, Lindsay discovered the man slaughter was a hoax to get Darla to Angel and hopefully take his soul. [2], Lindsey's driving force was his ambition, largely in part due to his childhood poverty. Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver bullets We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what theywere made of.