If you have any questions with any of our products both before or after your purchase, please feel free to contact our customer service department at 1-877-432-8639. Both heated equal areas in comparable ways, even though the Lasko only costs about $50. I know others you spoke with like theirs, but it would be helpful to all readers to hear your experience. I borrowed a friends EdenPure 1000. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! Thank you so much! I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. Talk about a rip off. ****. I have tried to return it for refund, but had to have the ORIGINAL shipping container, which I do not have after 2+ months, and neither Bass Pro Outlet nor Edenpure will accept the return w/o original shipping box, which Edenpure will NOT sell me because they say they only have one container per heater produced. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. It is designed for heated or cooled air to go through only the vents of the zones you have on. And it is VERY safe. The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. [8], When asked about Burkett's role in the controversy, David Van Os, Burkett's lawyer, responded with the hypothesis that someone may have reconstructed documents that they believed existed in 1972 or 1973.[9]. Burgers were wonderfully juicy, with the buns toasted on the flat top before assembly, so we got the full old fashioned greasy, buttery effect. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. Secure it to the basement wall using the appropriate masonry anchors for your foundation wall. Its a different volume of air being heated for different applications. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. less per month power bill. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. We tried their medium wings and a couple of the burgers. About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. Burkett's Heating & Cooling is a premier choice for professional HVAC services in Piqua and Sidney, OH, and surrounding areas. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. This heater will warm almost my entire upstairs, 1250 sq ft. Today, I had my central heat heat on 64 to try to save $$$ on my electricity. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. Now, here we have a 1500 watt that will be plugged into the same 120 outlet as the Eden Pure, yet the Eden Pure will with its 1500 watts heat up to 1000 sq ft, and this one heats 150?? The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. But I'm sure they will be $94.80 two years from now. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. I don't know about most of you, but in the coldest 3 months of the year here, my bill runs over $500. THiS IS FOR JIMS COMMENT,IF U HAVE A HOT WATER HEATER THINK ABOUT WHAT UR SAYING IF THE WATER IS HOT U DONT NEED TO HEAT IT. How can heated ceramic plates absorb water? They are perfect for sleeping. My best friend bought two, I told her not to do it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! The most common type of heat pump is the air-source heat pump, which transfers heat between your house and the outside air. Options depend on your purchase amount, and a down payment may be required. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. Thanks. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. Bill Burkett fights back A key player in the Dan Rather Memogate saga sends a letter to CBS, charging that its independent investigation destroyed his reputation and ignored the network's own . How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? Conventional water heaters use energyusually either gas or electricityto generate heat. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). It costs me about $2.00 per day to heat my house with Eden Pure. And stop blaming others if you buy the wrong product because you did't do your homework. I am glad you enjoy your EdenPURE heater. The documents, purported to have been typed in the early 1970s, were likely produced many years later with a computer using Microsoft Word on default settings. As well as my cats! Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". Offering Quality Products that are in stock at great prices and top notch Customer Service are our top concerns. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. All they will pay is the premiums paid in. I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. I purchased a gen4 2 months ago and could not find I was saving any money since Im all electric.I have notified the co I want to return the heater for a refund and they keep giving me the run around about sending me an RMA and the prepaid UPS slip to ship the unit back to them.after reading some of the other complaints I'm wandering if I will ever get a slip. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. Ductless Heating & Cooling. I will not call this a scam. Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. I might buy a DuraFlame simply because it is the same and half the price. i.e. The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. What else can I do? We have really high ceilings. Nothing is 100% efficient. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. A FEW YEARS AGO A CITY ELECTRIC INSPECTER TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS. There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. First is that your heating plant is grossly inefficient and that your heating ducts practically are routed outside the house to heat the outside before coming back inside. I cannot comment about the energy saving from the Edenpure Gen 4 as it quit working about 2+ months after it was purchased on EBay from Bass Pro Outlets. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. Reverse-cycle air conditioning is 300-600% efficient, which means that it can take one unit of electrical energy and turn it into 3 to 6 times as much heating or cooling energy. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). Any way, thank you. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. It doesn't mater what's inside the box. sellers and buyers must dedicate ourselves to paying the cost of doing the right thing or the one who doesn't dissappears. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? I am not so egotistical to refuse to admit that I was taken and that Edenpure sells grossly overpriced junk. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. Actually, when the Eden uses that copper coil to absorb the heat they're actually deceasing the efficiency of the heater. An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. Hello everyone,Wow what a group of knowledge about the Eden pure heater glad that I came upon this Hub.I find the info very good, and I would like to thank all of you for your comments especially Energy Eng.,Lots of good suggestions and just good ole plain sense.I've been looking at getting one of the Eden pures and just trying it out to see if it will accommodate some of my heating needs.My wife and I are not sure what type to get ,but we know that the basic hearter furnance is not the most efficient.We will try it and get back to you all.Again thanks for the info and the laughs.God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and Holidays. [1], Burkett had received publicity in 2000, after making and then retracting a claim that he had been transferred to Panama for refusing "to falsify personnel records of Governor Bush",[2] and in February 2004, when he claimed to have knowledge of "scrubbing" of Bush's TexANG records. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. Qualifying programs are: Capacity Bidding Program (CBP)* - available for residential customers. CLAIM: With the EdenPure the temperature will not vary in any part of the room. 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They don't claim it will save you money. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? Don't buy this slick ripoff. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. VERY EXPENSIVE, but interestly enough my sisters was higher and she has a smaller home and a heat pump. I am trying to heat about a 400 SQ foot area. FACT: Of course it will. Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. The EdenPURE portable electric heater is a scam by my count. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! Divide watts by 1,000 to get kilowatts per hour. The only way it would have is if I used it exactly like the Eden Pure is supposed to be used. Heat from #2 fuel oil burning furnace will cost you $33.25 for 1 million btus, if you are paying $3.58 per gallon. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. Sign in to create job alert. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house. I see the infomercial all over DirecTV. But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. Best of luck. Have tried it a few times since after unplugging it and the same thing happens, it will run for just a couple of minutes and it dies. That's right. [2] Fan heaters are the cheapest, but are often the least efficient and versatile. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 A 50-gallon, 5,500-watt water heater with a .90 EF and an electricity rate of $.16 per kilowatt hour will cost $781 to operate each year. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. I called customer service and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to return it and they sent me another one. The point has been made of how some feel about it. You still need them. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. If you can't understand that then you must be stupid. Electric space heaters fall into four main categories: fan heaters, ceramic, infrared, and oil-filled. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. It's CFM rate is horrible vs. a fan forced electric heater. I called the company so I could exchane it but I have to pay shipping. Lowering your home's thermostat (s) and using your main heating system less in tandem with a space heatercalled zone heating will cut your utility bill. If you sheeple need to believe otherwise, so be it. My only issue is that the second year it started turning off all the time for no reason and now it's just sitting in my spare room doing nothing. Heat is the movement of air molecules. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. http://pelletheat.org/pellets/compare-fuel-costs/. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . If I spend less, good. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. We have provided heating and air conditioning services to residential and commercial homeowners since 1981. The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. Geothermal Heat Pumps. So, I turned on the EdenPure, had it on high, which I didn't need to do, and my upstairs is varying from a toasty 70 degrees to 67 at the farthest areas from the EdenPure. Turned on in December. Perhaps another heater would work as well, but this one works real well. That's common sense. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. up. Buyer beware ! They were not meant to be used in that manner. [7] Burkett said he burned the originals after faxing copies of the documents to CBS. Now, that may seem cold to some of you, but no other heater identical to this one is going to do any better and if they are not this safe, you would have to have your central heat on. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). I told customer services I wanted my money refunded and was told NO WAY you have had your heater over the 60 days satisfaction guarantee.. What the h..l are they talking about I have a 5 yr warranty. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. You suffer from the "curse of knowledge" (having a bias based on what other people have taught you) . Placed an order for the Eden Pure Gen 4 after watching an TV commercial. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. Don't buy Edenpure heater they are scammer. Nothing has changed. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH.
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